192 The Supervision Paperwork Stack: What You Actually Need on File and Why

Most supervisors worry about paperwork last. Licensing boards look at it first.

In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Ashley Durbin to talk about the supervision paperwork that actually matters. We move beyond forms and checklists and look at the complete documentation system every supervisor needs. From contracts and evaluations to supervision notes, hour tracking, malpractice insurance, and employment records, we break down what belongs in your supervision file and why it matters.

We also discuss one of the biggest mistakes supervisors make. They wait until the end of the supervision process to organize documentation. By then, records are missing, hours are difficult to verify, and everyone is stressed.

Ashley shares how she uses her EHR to simplify supervision paperwork, automate evaluations, store contracts, and keep records organized. We also talk about external supervision agreements, supervision notes, state-specific requirements, and how documentation protects both supervisors and supervisees when questions arise.

This conversation is about creating better systems. When your documentation is organized, supervision becomes easier, more defensible, and far less stressful.

In this episode, you'll learn:

•  Why supervision paperwork is much more than a contract and a few forms 
•  How supervision notes and documentation protect both supervisors and supervisees 
•  The easiest ways to track hours, evaluations, and compliance requirements 
•  What records supervisors commonly forget until it is too late 

If paperwork has been the thing keeping you from becoming a supervisor, this episode is for you. Documentation does not have to be complicated. It just needs to be intentional.

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Transcript

Centralize Everything In One System

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Put your evaluation in there, have them take it electronically, you know, do do it once, which may be a little time intensive, but then you have it from then on, where you can just go in and say, send this on this date to this person, send this to this person, and you have you have it all right there with you. So you don't have to keep track of like this big long, oh well, I I drop box with these people and I drive with those over there and I zoom with this guy. No, dude, like use what you can.

Why Paperwork Is The Real Risk

SPEAKER_00 0:35

Welcome to Bandance Therapists, building practices for money. When it's all about working smart, not hard. And here's your host, Dr. Kate Wilhelm. Okay, we've spent this whole month building systems, contracts, evaluation, hard conversations. Today we're closing with the one that supervisors think about last and boards look at first. Your paperwork. Not the forms themselves, but the full stack. What you're required to keep, how long you're required to keep it, and what a licensing board or a complaint investigation would actually ask you to produce. Most supervisors have some of this. Almost nobody has all of it. Today we're fixing that. And don't forget the new supervisor starter kit is at KateWalkertraining.com/slash bonus. It's the starting point for everything we're talking about today. Now let's get to work. Hey, I'm Dr. Kate Walker, and I am with my colleague, Dr. Ashley Durbin, and we are going to take you through all things supervision. Uh, well, not most things, most things supervision. I cover the counseling, MFT aspect, and Ashley will give you the social work lowdown. And today we're all about the paperwork.

Find Your State Rules Fast

SPEAKER_00 2:00

So what do states actually require? Great question. So we're gonna go through all 50 states. So grab a chair, put on some comfy clothes. No worries. We are not gonna do that.

SPEAKER_01 2:14

Nope.

SPEAKER_00 2:15

And in fact, in the Kate Walker training courses, we give you a section in every module that says, go check your state rules. Because number one, you need to know where they are. You need to know how to find the rules, but they change all the time. I know with Texas, ours changed three or four times last year, and they're thinking about going to every two years. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. But they change a lot. So knowing where to go, find your rules, bookmark it, and then do the little find function when you get there so that you know where to find them. So today, if you're doing that while we're talking, you are doing the fine paperwork and not just paperwork, supervision paperwork. Ashley, I can't even begin to know where social work is on supervision paperwork because you guys have to cover so much.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

Yes. And we're, I think, one of the weirder ones for Texas. We were just having this conversation about like the differences between the professions, even though we do very much some of the similar stuff. And one of our great misnomers to people that are new to supervision is that there is a bunch of supervision paperwork required to start, which is the case in nearly every other state I've ever heard of. But none of our paperwork gets turned in until the end of the process, which is good in some ways, of like you have like, I don't know, you're thinking about it a lot because you got to turn it all in all at the end. But what that inevitably does is that you change supervisors, something happens to your supervisor or supervisee, and here you are at the end of the process and you don't have what you need. It is terrible, terrible, terrible. The board does not approve us in any way to start supervision. You just, you just do it for two years and then turn everything in at the end and go, here's what I did for the past two years. Is that okay? And if it's not okay, you would have no way of knowing that. So we're a little bit of an oddball in this, in that, like there is two whole forms that are due, but the auditing process means that you can have all of your notes from supervision be called into question at any time. There were so much of the ins and outs to make sure that your files are solid, locked down, that both the supervisee and the supervisor have access to all of the paperwork. And that I would encourage, and we'll get into this a little more, but like have it at the beginning, have everything that you need, except for the like signed, this is how many day hour hours they did, because you won't know that till the end. But make sure you start your file and have it solid before you even get started. Because when you wait, you forget and you're not going to have what you need when you're done.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

Yeah. So when you check your rules, you're, I know for counseling MFT, one set of rules may say, okay, within 30 days, you would have to have developed your file, or you have right away, you have to have your your supervise your supervisee's file needs to have these things. But as I've mentioned in other episodes, nobody may nobody's gonna ask for it. I mean, unless there's a problem. And so supervisors, if they tend to be, oh, I don't know, not detail person people or uh not paperwork people, this can cause a lot of fear and angst and gnashing of teeth, right? Because you already struggle with notes. I know it's okay, no judgment. And to think, oh my gosh, Kate, you

The Contract That Defines The Relationship

SPEAKER_00 5:50

want me to supervise and I'm gonna have more notes to write. Well, sort of. So when we talk about supervision paperwork, most states it's you have this one form. Some places call it a contract, some some places have other names for it. And it just means, okay, I am entering into a formal relationship with you, my supervisee. And we will we'll both sign this, we'll turn it in so the state knows, okay, that is a formal relationship. And when you go back to the definition of negligence, negligence starts with the idea there is a formal, recognized relationship. It's it's why we give our clients a consent form. It's why your physician gives you a consent form. It's to codify or to formalize, okay, we are in a formal relationship. There are things you can expect from me, and there are things I can expect from you. Bingo, here we go. So that is the most important piece of paperwork. Everything from there, when you go to your rules, it will tell you exactly what needs to be in that file. And be sure to check out our our episode on evaluation. We talk a lot about why it's important to have evaluation in the supervisees file, but no state board that I'm aware of is ever gonna ask you for that. So let's

Supervision Notes Without The Pain

SPEAKER_00 7:15

talk about the note, right? So we've got the formal supervision, we are in a relationship together. The note. How can we, how can Ashley and I make this easy for you? I have an idea. Let's make the supervisees take the note. How about that? Would that be good? Uh I would like that. I think that would be a good thing. It serves a lot of purposes. I don't know. Ashley, what do you think? I mean, can can social workers do that? Can you make your supervisee take the note in supervision?

SPEAKER_01 7:45

Yes, asterisk, asterisk, asterisk. Um the rule book says that it is the supervisor's responsibility to have a note. Us too, us too. Uh-huh. And that I think, like, if a supervisee, because I've had some that are like, what can I do to make sure the P's and Q's? And I'm like, if you want to write the note, amazing. But what puts me in a little bit of a nervousness is that like if I'm not actively seeing them, like virtually writing down or whatever. So I really have no control or way of knowing that they're doing the thing that they say they're going to do. Now, I did have one that was like, she was more type A than me, which is not hard to do, to be honest. And I, you know, that's one of the things you said earlier about like, you know, you may not be like super organized or whatever, or you may have a lot of different supervisees going a lot of different directions, doing a lot of things, which is where I was. And this supervisee said, I prefer to write the no. It helps me kind of solidify what I'm doing, where I'm going, what my goals are, you know, whatever. And she would send me those to sign at the end of every month. So her signature, my signature, dates. And so sometimes she got off of that, but like I knew because I saw and saved every single one of them that we were assigning them off. You know, and I think like if the supervisee is like, do we have to do this? I don't want to do this, then, you know, like technically it is on me. So I would do it at the end of the day. But um yeah, I absolutely think you can, especially if the supervisee, I just to me in my practice, it's a little more like supervisee-led. If they ask about it or want to do it, I'm a hundred percent handing it over to you. Please do. But if there is any sort of pushback about them doing it, I just make sure that I'm I'm taking care of myself so that I don't, I'm not in a sticky spot if the board comes calling.

SPEAKER_00 9:43

Right. And one of the things, and you're completely right in our license to, you know, it's our responsibility to document every single session and look at your state rules. You may have things like the duration of the supervision session, how many people were there, is it group, is it individual? I know back in the day in Texas, we used to have to list the name of everybody in the rec in the note. And I'm like, well, that was that was weird. We don't have to do that anymore. But using a template in your paper, so this is your paperwork stack. If you have a note template that's really easy for your supervisee to follow, and so this is where we talk about issues, this is where we talk about rules, this is where we talk about referrals to be made, this is where we talk about homework. And I know most of us are doing this virtually, so that if you're able to see the supervisee's note, you know, screen share something like that, or you can do, I don't know, Adobe. So you can just attach the note and both of you sign it. One of the things Texas is trying to address right now is if if you are if you become incapacitated, it's do supervision notes fall under the same rules as client notes? Not really, right? Because it's not necessarily protected health information. It's not necessarily fall, you know, fall under HIPAA. And so it's this weird kind of no man's land where we've got these notes. It's going to become part of your record, not necessarily your client records. And so, how do you plan for your demise so that your supervisee doesn't get hung out to dry because and they can't upgrade because no one can prove that they saw you because you have all the notes. So I know we're kind of in this space in Texas where we're trying to find the perfect answer to that. And so part of your paperwork might be to have the supervisee at least leave every supervision with a copy of that note and you verify that's what we talked about. That's the rule we covered, right? In case something goes sideways, we want to make sure that if you covered the rule about confidentiality, you wrote down we covered the rule about confidentiality. And then you can put it into your supervisee's file. They can have a copy to do with whatever they want. Hopefully they're gonna put it in their own personal file. And then you have covered your bases when it comes to terminating, or if something goes bad wrong, you just don't want to do it anymore.

SPEAKER_01 12:24

Yeah. And I this is something, you know, we haven't spent a lot of time talking about this. This probably is not a conversation for today necessarily, but like that to me is one of the reasons why I utilize my EHR for supervision. Oh, a lot of people do a great point. Yes. And like it just, you know, I was I was transitioning from therapy to supervision. I'm like, I'm running these damn notes anyway. And at least this one is short and sweet. But like that to me, that templated, like, you know, and making sure you have how long was the session, because I think sometimes, you know, translating from therapy to supervision, it's the same. We're required to say duration. Was it telehealth? Was it in person? You know, what were the themes that we discussed? Whatever. It feels very much like a therapy note to me that I'm putting in, at least the top part of it. And so to me, is like having that automated, like I just load the next note, it says, This session was held via telehealth, what the the you know, supervisee, blah, blah, blah. They agreed to use this modality. It was 60 minutes in duration, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Then they also have an access to it no matter what happens to me. So that like if they are that like kind of type A, I want control or record of all of the things that happen, it's just easy. They go into their portal, they can see their notes, bing, bang, boom. If your portal is set up like that, if your EHR is set up like that. So I think that's also just a really nice thing about making it as easy as you're it can be on yourself by using the technology that you have at your disposal.

SPEAKER_00 13:58

Yeah. And if you're thinking right now, wet signature or dry signature, right? Do I need to have something that I sign with a pen or yeah, that ship sailed? We don't worry about that anymore. So I will tell you one of the things when we do have attorneys as our guest experts, they'll talk about just make sure you label that note. So that supervision note in your EHR AHR is labeled supervision note. Because I mean, when you want somebody to know what you're writing them, tell them what you want them to know, right? There's something like yes. Okay. Yes. I wrote a dissertation once. I can't remember what.

SPEAKER_01 14:36

I love it. I love it. And and too, you know, this is one of those things that, like, when we talk about your paperwork stack, we talk about your file. That if I'm already paying for

EHR Templates And Shared Access

SPEAKER_01 14:45

an EHR because I'm doing therapy, I also put in my contracts and plans and all of the orientation materials, it is all in their records electronically and it's templated. Now, can I go in there and update if there's a specific thing going on with this person versus not like, let's say, for example, I don't know, they work at a school and there has to be an ROI for the school to make sure they can talk to me and vice versa and whatever about their students, whatever. I put that in the contract, I send it to them, they sign it, bing, bang, boom. So, like you can like think outside the box of what your EHR can do. And we spent some time talking recently about evaluations. Put your evaluation in there, have them take it electronically, you know, do it once, which may be a little time intensive, but then you have it from then on, where you can just go in and say, send this on this date to this person, send this to this person, and you have you have it all right there with you. So you don't have to keep track of like this big long, oh, well, I I drop box with these people and I drive with those over there and I zoom with this guy. No, dude. Like use what you can.

SPEAKER_00 15:59

Hey, quick pause. This month's free bonus is the new supervisor starter kit, a practical guide that walks you through exactly what to have in place before your first supervisee arrives. If you've been circling the decision to supervise and wondering where you'd even start, this is where you start. Grab it free at KateWalkerTraining.com slash bonus. Now back to the episode. Make it easy for you, right? Yes. And if you go to your state rules and the stack is literally just we need the inform or the MOU informed consent contract, whatever your state calls it, and then we don't need anything until the upgrade paperwork, and we don't care what you put in your supervisee's file, you just need two pieces of paper. I don't care. I want you to have the note, have the contract, have the things that we're talking about here. Because go back and listen to the episode about evaluation. This protects you, supervisor, and you too, supervisees. You know, if things go sideways, we want to make sure those notes are easy to access. We want to make sure that evaluation is easy to access. And y'all, if you don't start with a contract that states everything that your supervisee can expect from you, that's a really shaky place to start. And so again, we've got an episode where we talk about what makes a good supervision contract, what makes a terrible supervision contract. So we've got official paperwork, we've got contract, we have evaluation, we have notes, every single note that documents every single meeting.

Tracking Hours And Supervision Ratios

SPEAKER_00 17:42

Um let's talk about tracking hours. How do you how do you track hours?

SPEAKER_01 17:47

So this is actually one of the things that I do put more on the supervisee because while I may know the kind of general framework for how often they're working and whatever else, um, as somebody who's a supervisor in multiple states, the way that each state counts what's clinical for social workers can differ. And there's normally a definition. And a lot of times it's up to the supervisor to say what is it, is it? Which puts you in a little bit of a sticky situation with the board sometimes. But many of them will be like, the supervisor has the say, and then you can turn it into the board, and the board is like, we don't agree. So, you know, what a fun life we all lead. But um, so some states, and it's very common for states to have a one to 30 ratio, you need one hour of supervision for 30 hours of clinical work. Some states do one to 40, some do one to 20. So you need to know what your state ratio is. And then to me, because I'm not often, if you're working where they're working, it's a little easier to track their hours. But if they're doing like outpatient therapy, they know how many clients they have at any given moment. They know how many people know show. They know how many hours they did documentation and outreach and phone calls and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I put this on them. And I have a couple of different methods. I prefer to have a drive so that I can see as they update it. And then thereby I can see if they haven't updated it. Hey, it's been a month since you updated your log. Go in there and update what those are. So I can keep kind of a running tab on it. Some people I also have in the if they are wanting to do their note, sometimes like my template that I have for their note will also include how many hours did I do this week, how many hours, you know, one hour of supervision as documented here. This is how many work hours I'm claiming, or direct versus indirect. There's so many different words to describe this depending on what state you're in. But I make them do that because although I know they're full-time employee, often that may not be how many hours that they can count. So it just really depends. And you want to stick in your ratio if they are doing 40 hours, if they're just like clinical, their whole job is clinical all day, every day, like an IOP or PHP, for example, if it's 40 hours every week, it's just nice. But you may have to have a a second supervision hour to keep up with the the ratio. So um, yeah, I have some Excels, I have some drives, I have some paper. Yep. I mean, and by paper I do mean like a PDF.

SPEAKER_00 20:25

PDF.

unknown 20:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

I mean, I use Google. We used when I was supervising Google Sheets, right? Just a X uh Google spreadsheet. I know some people use time to track. Um I I would divide it up by site. Now, one of the things that we run into here, and we're gonna have an expert webinar in about a week with our state board, and they're gonna talk about problems they see that don't become complaints. And I'm so curious about this because I want to know what the phone calls are, I want to know what the emails are about.

Sites, Hidden Caseloads, Real Liability

SPEAKER_00 21:00

But if your supervisee is at a, we'll just call it a secret site, and they are seeing clients and you don't know and they're not bringing them to supervision, that's a liability. So part of your paperwork stack you might want to add is a site paperwork. Texas used to require that, they don't anymore, but it's our responsibility, and it's stated explicitly in our rules, you know, that we have to keep up with that. So that might be something you want to add. Um, and maybe even uh ask your supervisee to track their hours by site, because your supervisees can be in some really rough situations where they, you know, where they're seeing like 40 direct hours, 60 direct hours a week. I mean, that's not sustainable. And, you know, helping your supervisee, empowering them to self care and to advocate for a good schedule, you can see that sometimes. So vividly in their hours logs. So having an hours log, having a site, uh site paperwork that even it's just something you made up so that you can help your supervisee stick up for themselves at work. Absolutely. What else can they put in there? I'm trying to think because I know the site paperwork isn't required.

SPEAKER_01 22:19

Yeah. And one of the things I don't know if y'all have this um this fun letter, but in social work, if we don't work at the same place that the supervisee does, we have to do what's called an external supervision letter, which is basically a letter that gets submitted to the board at the end, which says, My supervisor didn't work where I worked, but we were allowed to talk about my clients. And the the business has to sign it. So if they're employed by someone, uh a hospital system or even a private practice, whatever, but I don't work there, which is really common for those external supervisors. You have to have this additional letter which basically says the business signed off on me knowing about their clients, which I think is really interesting. But that is one of those things that I think is probably the most forgotten piece of paper to the whole shebang, and is something that I have a really I have a template that I use because I want to make sure, hey, this is something that shouldn't be that overly complicated. It's just a few sentences. We understand that our person is under supervision and we'll be talking about her clients with her supervisor. Like that's not a rocket science. I don't actually even know why that's a requirement. Like they clearly know you're an LMSW. What are we doing? But that is the case in some states. And even some states and sysh workers in Switch work, you cannot supervise somebody that does not work where you work.

SPEAKER_00 23:49

Because

External Supervision Letters Employers Forget

SPEAKER_00 23:50

I know that's the case, yeah, with counselors and MFTs. Some states still have that. You have to work at the same place. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:56

Yeah. So if that's you, you don't have to worry about this. But at least in the state of Texas and a few other states, if you're that what we consider external supervisor, you may have to get a letter. And that not having a relationship with the place of employment, that's one of the struggles. We at K Worker Training, we kind of recommend it. Like get to know your person's manager, supervisor, what have you. Make those lines of communication really open and clear to like if there is something going on. And it relates to clinical. Like if they were late and it didn't affect anything, I don't want to know about that. Or if they dyed their hair blue and you don't like that. I no shits. But if it's clinical, you know, in nature, you have my phone number, you can let me know what's what. And I can get this letter signed and make sure that I have what I need to help this person upgrade when they're ready.

SPEAKER_00 24:48

Yeah. Oh my gosh, there's a lot of paperwork at the end. That's a little nail bitey. It's so, it's so stupid. Yeah. Well, paperwork. Paperwork's never stupid. Come on.

SPEAKER_01 25:02

Yeah. I never ever at the beginning. Most places make you turn in. And and that is something too. I don't know if y'all have this either, but in a lot of my states, there is a six-month review that's required every single six months throughout the process. There are a lot of states that require that. Yeah. It's more paperwork. But I don't mind the six months because also going back to that uh conversation about evaluation and formal kind of evaluation. Some states like mandate you to do that and they kind of lock you into it. I think more frequent is, you know, if you're already a quarter of the way through the process at your first six months, like it's a little late to be fixing things, in my opinion. But you know, that is something to keep your six month reviews. Some of my states also have a case narrative that's required with that, which is basically like a case review, uh case study. And um, so just you know, there's even more that may be due,

Six Month Reviews And Extra Requirements

SPEAKER_01 26:00

but look at your board. If this is a journey that you're starting to take or thinking about taking, look at your state laws, figure out what's what, and figure out if that's something that you're okay with. Because if you're paperwork averse, this may not be the process that like lights your little fire. And some states may not have much of anything at all. Some states may have quite a bit. So just know what you're getting yourself into.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

Absolutely. And find an easy way to do it. And that's part of, I think we're lucky because we do have the Texas Supervisor Coalition where and it's a Facebook group. So if you don't like Facebook, I'm so sorry. But this is a really cool group, and we have monthly workshops, which isn't just Texas, it's anybody can join, where you can ask, like, hey, I'm really overwhelmed by paperwork. Can somebody please share an easier way that they're doing this? In fact, that's our first workshop for the 2026-27 season. So as of this recording, we haven't had it yet. So you you can register. It's in August, and it's literally how people do paperwork. What's the best way to onboard? Because it can be very nail-bite-y. Another thing I know in Texas, you have to have a remediation plan, but it doesn't tell you what it has to look like or what has to be in it, or when you have to give it to them. So number one, check your state rules. I promise you there is a number and it'll say paperwork, and it'll be bullet, bullet, bullet, something, something, letter, letter, letter that tells you exactly what needs to be in your file for your supervisee. All right. Check, check, check, check, check. Then you start your own file for things that aren't there, like the contract, site paperwork if it doesn't ask for that, a template so that you can have an easy way to do things in your EHR, things that make things easy for

Malpractice Proof And Other Smart Add Ons

SPEAKER_00 27:55

like be a notes tracker. We didn't even talk about, but your supervisee's malpractice insurance expiration date or a copy of their malpractice insurance. No state in the world is gonna tell you to have that, but oh my gosh, is that important? And that was that's the story you told in that last episode about evaluation, right? I mean, yeah, gosh, malpractice insurance. I don't care if your agency says they're covering you, get your own.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

So oh my gosh. And I this is one of the things um I had and this is a friend, it wasn't even a supervisee. I had a friend like three days ago who was like, I got this amazing job offer. And I was like, not to be mean, but that's lipstick on a pig, babe. Like, that's a terrible job, and also, um, but you know, it's like because I think sometimes these jobs kind of they make it sound good, and they're like, oh, well, we'll cover your liability insurance, for example. And I was like, if they give you dollars in your hand to purchase liability insurance, great, have at it. I don't have a problem with that. But if they say we're covering your liability insurance and you never see a policy, a plan that has your name on it, no, absolutely not. That is a lipstick on a pig, and pigs are great, but like this is not that's not what we're doing. So don't let them convince you that you're covered. Oh my gosh, I could spend a whole hour on this. This is not the way we do it. Get your own liability insurance. I worked for the federal government and they were like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got you. Something would happen, and they go, absolutely who? Literally, literally don't have your own crap. Yeah, have it and and make sure as a supervisor, you're like, okay, I know that it's this, you know, it's May 3rd. That's when it renews. I'm gonna make a reminder on April 1 to check in. Hey, have you renewed your policy yet? Can you send me the new thingy bob? It's you

Resources, Starter Kit, And Closing

SPEAKER_01 29:55

know, it's just something really important.

SPEAKER_00 29:57

And we've we've got you. So you can listen to this episode again. Find your rules, check, check, check. You can get the book, the clinical supervision survival guide. We sell a planner at Kate Walker Trainy. We probably have something free somewhere. So please just search our stuff, find something free, do what's easiest for you, but just do it. Make sure your paperwork's in order. And if paperwork is what's keeping you from supervising, please, please hear me. You can learn this. I promise you, we make it so easy for you in the Kate Walker training supervision courses. We don't want paperwork, aversion, to keep you from paying it forward to the next generation of counselors and social workers. So listen to the episode again. Stop, hit rewind, go listen again. If you're watching it on YouTube, hit pause, go back, slow it down, get it off of one and a half time, go listen to it again and get your paperwork in order.

unknown 30:57

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 30:58

Anything else you want to add?

SPEAKER_01 31:00

Have fun. Have fun doing it. Make it a game. I don't know. Gamify it. Do do anything you can to get it, get it done. Yeah. And don't reinvent the wheel. Ask. Ask for help. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 31:11

All right. Have a great. Thanks for listening. If this month gave you a clearer picture of what it actually takes to supervise well, the contracts, the evaluations, the hard conversations, the paperwork that protects you, then you're more ready than you think. Your next step is the free new supervisor starter kit at KateWalker Training.comslash bonus. It's the foundation every supervisor needs before their first supervisee signs a contract. And if you've been listening this month thinking you wish you could get a CE for this kind of content, step it up, members do. Check it out now at Katewalkertraining.comslash step it up. If you love today's episode, be sure to leave a five-star review. It helps other badass therapists find the show and build practices that thrive. Big thanks to Ridgley Walker for our original fun facts and podcast intro, and to Carl Guyanella for editing this episode and making us sound amazing. See you next week.